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'Pre-Debate' Debate Begins for GOP Also-Rans


Republican presidential candidates, from left: Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, George Pataki, and Lindsey Graham take the stage during the CNBC Republican presidential debate at the University of Colorado, Oct. 28, 2015.

Republican presidential candidates, from left: Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, George Pataki, and Lindsey Graham take the stage during the CNBC Republican presidential debate at the University of Colorado, Oct. 28, 2015.

The lowest ranking Republican presidential candidates kicked off their third debate of the primary election season Wednesday.

Rick Santorum, Bobby Jindal, George Pataki and Lindsey Graham took to the stage in Colorado ahead of the main debate between Donald Trump, Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Carly Fiorina, Marco Rubio, John Kasich, Chris Christie, Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.

Billionaire businessman Trump will arrive at the debate suddenly trailing retired neurosurgeon Carson in a series of polls.

Four recent surveys in the crucial, early state of Iowa show Carson surging into a lead over real estate mogul Trump. And for the first time, Carson has taken a narrow lead over Trump in a new national survey.

The latest New York Times/CBS News poll shows Carson with 26 percent support among Republican primary voters, and Trump in second place with 22 percent. It's the first time that Trump has not been in the lead since the Times/CBS poll began ranking the candidates in late July.

Bush Under Scrutiny

The debate, to be held in Boulder, Colorado and broadcast on U.S. cable network CNBC, will involve the top 10 Republican presidential contenders, who are entering a crucial phase of the primary campaign.

The stakes seem especially critical for former Florida Governor Jeb Bush who recently slashed campaign spending after slipping further behind in national polls and surveys in key early states like Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. Bush was busy this past weekend trying to reassure wealthy campaign donors at a Houston retreat.

Wednesday’s prime-time debate will also feature former business executive Carly Fiorina, Florida Senator Marco Rubio, Texas Senator Ted Cruz, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, Ohio Governor John Kasich and Kentucky Senator Rand Paul. An earlier debate will also be held featuring four other contenders who did not make the top ten: Former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, former New York governor George Pataki and South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. Former Virginia governor Jim Gilmore did not qualify for the earlier debate because he is below one percent in the polls.

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump gestures while speaking at a town hall meeting at Atkinson Country Club in Atkinson, N.H., Oct. 26, 2015.

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump gestures while speaking at a town hall meeting at Atkinson Country Club in Atkinson, N.H., Oct. 26, 2015.

The Shrinking Democratic Field

The size of the Republican field is a major contrast with the Democratic race where only three contenders remain: former secretary of state Hillary Clinton, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders and former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley. Two Democrats dropped out last week, former Virginia senator Jim Webb and former Rhode Island governor Lincoln Chafee.

Vice President Joe Biden also took himself out of the 2016 race, giving Clinton a boost that has helped re-establish her as the clear Democratic frontrunner. Clinton also helped herself with her strong appearance before the House Select Committee on Benghazi and a crisp debate performance the previous week.

Trump Takes On Carson

In the Republican race, Trump has stepped up his attacks on Carson in recent days, accusing him of having “super low energy” in an interview with CNN. Carson responded on Fox that he didn’t want to “get in the mud pit” with Trump, but that may be harder to avoid in Wednesday’s debate. Trump told MSNBC Tuesday that he is "willing to spend whatever it takes to win." He also said Carson will get more attention now and "we'll see how he holds up to the scrutiny."

Trump has not hesitated to go after rivals previously, targeting Bush, Rubio and Paul both in campaign speeches and in past debates. But there may be more of a risk for Trump attacking Carson, who is the best-liked of the Republican contenders, according to recent polls. A Bloomberg survey found 84 percent of Iowa Republicans viewed Carson favorably.

Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush speaks during a Presidential candidate forum at Regent University in Virginia Beach, Va, Oct, 23, 2015.

Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush speaks during a Presidential candidate forum at Regent University in Virginia Beach, Va, Oct, 23, 2015.

Trump and the Republican Establishment

But Trump did well in a new Associated Press-Gfk poll where seven in 10 Republicans surveyed said Trump was the party’s strongest general election candidate, compared to six in 10 for Carson. Sixty percent also said Bush could win the general election while 54 percent said the same about Rubio.

Trump also got a boost recently when Politico reported that 81 percent of Republican insiders who they check with regularly believe that the odds of Trump winning the nomination have grown measurably over the last two months.

Trump’s success continues to stir worry among members of the Republican establishment. Republican strategist Karl Rove, a key advisor to former President George W. Bush, wrote in the Wall Street Journal that Republicans may have to choose between a nominee who has a conservative agenda or one “reflecting populist anger”, presumably referring to Trump. Rove warned that “conservative principles” would provide a path to victory while “populist outrage alone will end in defeat.”

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